Curse

Perdix · Sep 13, 2007, 02:54 PM // 14:54

I started playing Guild Wars with Factions loved it. Every town was full and was so easy to get a party together to go do a mission. But now it seems the GW-World is so big, everyone is somewhere else or doing something different. Making it a real pain to get a party together (there might be plenty of people in that particular town, but they aint there to do the same mission, if you get my meaning).

Is anyone here still yet to do the Heart Of The Shiverpeaks quest?
I can't find you in the game anymore

Perdix Leonhart

Yanman.be · Sep 13, 2007, 02:57 PM // 14:57

LFP = looking for porn

Ghost Recon · Sep 13, 2007, 02:58 PM // 14:58

People are still there but who wants to make teams when heros are better?

cthulhu reborn · Sep 13, 2007, 03:05 PM // 15:05

I go out with heroes/henchies mostly or with guildies...random player groups are just not doable. Too many dumb players that don't get it and that costs me too much time.

Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare.

xArcaeus · Sep 13, 2007, 03:05 PM // 15:05

Try using 'LFG' instead, but more importantly, while people can still beat missions using heroes and henchmen, chances are very slim you'll find others to play with, especially in the later areas of the game. If you have a guild though, try asking them for help!

Perdix · Sep 13, 2007, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by Ghost Recon

People are still there but who wants to make teams when heros are better?

That's true, but then you come across a quest like "Heart of the Shiverpeaks", and you need help carrying the explosive barrels.

BLOODGOAT · Sep 13, 2007, 03:10 PM // 15:10

Competent team > micromanaging any day.

Keithark · Sep 13, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12

I think it will settle down and be more people later...lots of people are still getting their first character thru the game and once they do they will then either repeat stuff or bring their other 8 characters thru. I pug only when on my monk (because I find it a pain to heal and manage hero's at same time since they follow my target) so on my monk I PUG and of course have little problem finding a group, but ranger is same way, I like to spread conditions and interrupt different targets but when I tab thru my heros run around like idiots following my target so I usually pug or guild on those 2 characters. Give it a little time and I think it will get better

EDIT: on a side note, when pugging be sure to designate a group leader or target caller..and make sure that person knows who to target first, second, etc (for example do not start beating on the enemy tank first instead of the healer, mesmer, elly, or necro) and everyone follow his target. Lots of pugs fail because they each think they have to do things their own way instead of working as a team. Hero's seem easier because they attack who you attack, but if you could get people to follow the leader they would be better because they are smart enough not to cast in malestrom or keep casting on a spell breaking monk, etc.

Perdix · Sep 13, 2007, 03:12 PM // 15:12

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Originally Posted by cthulhu reborn

I go out with heroes/henchies mostly or with guildies...random player groups are just not doable. Too many dumb players that don't get it and that costs me too much time.

Whenever I go out with random players I am reminded again why it was a bad idea to do so. There are of course exceptions but they are too rare.

I am the same mate, but there have been times where I really enjoyed being a part of a random human team (although, I must add that is a rare).

As for my guild/alliance, they all seem to be doing their own thing too.

I almost always use henchies except when you get to a mission like the one I'm on now.

mcsumo · Sep 13, 2007, 03:13 PM // 15:13

Yep heroes pretty much killed the PUG. Generally the only teams you see for normal missions now are guild groups or old friends. Although they were a godsend for me and a friend who pretty much played the game as a 2 man co-op. I mean seriously, Devona, Little Thom, Lina, Mhenlo, Dunham and Aidan in the ROF islands!

But that was still better than the few experiences of a PUG we tried. Rage quitters, AFKers, idiots and a**eholes put us off that.

Having said all that I will gladly come with you for the heart of the Shiverpeaks, give me a shout in game if you still want to do it. (I hope I can do it again having done it once)

SuperDave · Sep 13, 2007, 03:28 PM // 15:28

At least heroes are predictably stupid, with ppl you just never know. It's more fun playing with real ppl, but more efficient playing with AI

Ghost Recon · Sep 13, 2007, 03:29 PM // 15:29

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Originally Posted by Perdix

That's true, but then you come across a quest like "Heart of the Shiverpeaks", and you need help carrying the explosive barrels.

I had no trouble with that quest with hero/hench and i was a monk.

Perdix · Sep 13, 2007, 03:46 PM // 15:46

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Originally Posted by Ghost Recon

I had no trouble with that quest with hero/hench and i was a monk.

To be honest, it probably helps to be a monk on that mission (not that i actually know, but the thought of an extra healer sounds great to me).

What heros and henchies did you take with you?
Any particular strategy?

I've only had one stab at it, but needless to say, I was caught slightly off guard

Had no idea what I was running into.

Perdix · Sep 13, 2007, 03:47 PM // 15:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcsumo

Yep heroes pretty much killed the PUG. Generally the only teams you see for normal missions now are guild groups or old friends. Although they were a godsend for me and a friend who pretty much played the game as a 2 man co-op. I mean seriously, Devona, Little Thom, Lina, Mhenlo, Dunham and Aidan in the ROF islands!

But that was still better than the few experiences of a PUG we tried. Rage quitters, AFKers, idiots and a**eholes put us off that.

Having said all that I will gladly come with you for the heart of the Shiverpeaks, give me a shout in game if you still want to do it. (I hope I can do it again having done it once)

Thanks mate, the help would be really appreciated.

BlackSephir · Sep 13, 2007, 03:58 PM // 15:58

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Originally Posted by mcsumo

Yep heroes pretty much killed the PUG.

No. People killed PUGS. No wonder people prefer h/h than grouping with mending wammos. People aggro, have sucky builds, don't attack called targets etc.
It's not a surprise that people don't want to risk PUG-ing. Often it's just a waste of time

Bryant Again · Sep 13, 2007, 03:59 PM // 15:59

Guild Wars is just too big as it is now. Everyone is too spread apart. LFGs takes some time, and people like to rush as fast as they can through the quests, missions, etc. (Not to mention that PUGs have an awful reputation...)

Not only that, but there's so much to do in GW:EN at this point in time and with no clear-cut route to do it all.

Dr Strangelove · Sep 13, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14

GWEN is a little more decentralized, without clear "YOU ARE IN A MISSION NOW" outposts. I haven't joined a single PuG in GWEN. However, I group up plenty with guildies, so it all works out.

Join a good guild and all your worries will melt away.

OlMurraniKasale · Sep 13, 2007, 04:17 PM // 16:17

In GWEN, I only opted to find a group of real people in Heart of the Shiverpeaks and A Time for Heroes. I may do the Defense of the Eye with real people, or at least run away so the converging hordes don't trample me to death.

Actually, they're the only two places in GWEN so far here I needed them. I'm a casual player, so tweaking my hero/henchie builds just isn't all that fun for me. I just want to go out, explore, blast stuff, you know?

plasmasword · Sep 13, 2007, 04:32 PM // 16:32

People only make groups for things they have trouble doing with Hench/Heroes.

Mr. G · Sep 13, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

as a random point to beat cynder get him to spawn by the barrel guy, get a monk to use PS on you then talk tot he dwarf and wack Space,F1,Space,F1 etc as fast as you can

easy win